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Post Posted: 2009-1-31 22:33 Reply with quote
转载的,觉得写得挺好的,纠正了我以前不少错误的观念。。。。要有耐心读完哟 big_happy.gif

p.s. 我完全没有在这里打压房产经纪的意思。 big_think.gif 只是提出来,大家讨论讨论。。。

Save Thousands by Purchasing a Home Without a Buyer’s Agent

Many home buyers have been convinced that they need to use a buyer’s agent to purchase a home. If you are somewhat comfortable in the home buying process, purchasing without a buyer’s agent is a viable option that can save you thousands of dollars. Let’s address some of the myths when it comes to buyer’s agents:

Myth #1: Buyer’s agents are free for buyers

The most common myth is that the buyer’s agent is free for buyers. The buyer’s agent usually gets paid a 2.5% commission from the selling price. Since the buyer is the only person bringing money to the real estate transaction, that 2.5% is coming from the buyer’s money. With the average home price over $350,000 in the GTA today, are you willing to pay more than $8,750 for the services of a buyer’s agent?

Myth #2: Buyer’s agents have the buyer’s best interests in mind

In theory the buyer’s agent should be representing the buyer’s interests. However the incentive structure currently in place encourages buyer’s agents to act against the client’s best interest particularly in the negotiation stage of a home purchase.

Generally the buyer would like to get their desired house at the lowest possible price. However, since the buyer’s agent commission is tied directly to the sale price of the house, the higher the sale price, the higher their commission. Why would the buyer’s agent negotiate as hard as possible for their client since the more they negotiate the smaller their pay cheque will be.

An even bigger problem for the buyer is the agent’s motivation to close the deal as quickly as possible. When a buyer is interested in a particular house the buyer’s agent’s main objective will be to close the deal otherwise the agent will need to schedule more visits, drive the client to many more houses and go through the negotiation process once again. The buyer’s agent does not get paid unless the buyer's offer gets accepted. There is incredible pressure to persuade the buyer to overbid. If the buyer overbids, there is a greater chance that the offer will be accepted. Many agents’ will pressure and use sales tactics against the buyer to increase the price rather than convincing the seller to drop their price.

Do you really need that pressure when making the most expensive purchase of your life?

Myth #3: Buyer’s agents are better negotiators than you are

Looking at the TREB monthly market update indicates that the average house sells for 98% of list price in the GTA (2007 YTD)

TREB Monthly Market Update

This means that the average buyer’s agent is unable negotiate more than the 2.5% fee they are charging the buyer.

Myth #4: Buyer’s agents will have access to more houses

Many buyer’s agents selectively choose homes to show clients. They may not show their client homes that are For Sale By Owner or homes listed on MLS that pay less than a 2.5% commission.

Next time you sell a house suggest to the listing agent that you would like to offer less than the standard 2.5% commission to the buyer’s agent. They will likely respond that buyer’s agents will ignore your listing. How could this be? If buyer’s agents were truly acting in the buyer’s best interest, they would show them any house that meets their needs regardless of commission.

This limits the universe of houses that are shown to you, the buyer. Going without an agent gives you access to all houses on the market and you will never be pressured into buying a house.


10 Steps to Buy a House Without a Buyers Agent

1. Never sign ANYTHING with a real estate agent until you are ready to make an offer.

2. Determine your financial capability to purchase a home, get pre-approved for a mortgage. Identify location and type of home that is aligned to your financial capability.

3. Find a good home inspector and lawyer. Use references from friends or relatives to do this. Become very familiar with the standard TREB real estate forms.
TREB Real Estate Forms With Explantions

4. Sign up for free daily MLS email listings that show new houses and price changes when they are available on MLS. You can find agents on the web who do this, also agents you meet at open houses may be willing to include you on these distribution lists. It is important to get on more than one of these lists since some agents only provide selective houses in their email listings. You can also bookmark any houses your are interested in from realtor.ca. A firefox plugin called Update Scanner can be used to identify when a change to a listing or listing search occurs. Firefox Update Scanner Plugin

5. Start tracking the market you are interested in via realtor.ca and going to open houses. Use a spreadsheet to track specific houses you are interested in. Capture price drops in your spreadsheet and when the house sells, call or email the real estate agent to ask about the selling price. Essentially you are building your own comparable market analysis since this information is closely held by real estate agents.

6. Call or email listing agents to schedule viewings. Most have no problem doing this. However if you come across a listing agent that does not want to give you a viewing, just tell them you will notify the owner of the house. Feel free to let the owner know (leave a note at their house) that their listing agent refused to show the house to a prospective buyer who is preapproved for a mortgage. I’m sure the owner wouldn’t be pleased considering their listing agent is not acting in their best interest.

7. When you find a house you are interested in determine what the market value is given your comparable market analysis. After looking at the market for a few months you will probably have a better feel for the market than many agents do. Ask the seller to complete a seller property information statement (Form 220).
Seller Property Information Statement

8. Make an offer. The agent may want you to sign a buyer’s representation or buyer’s customer service agreement. Only sign this agreement with the listing agent, not another agent that is brought to the table. You did all the work to find the house, why should another broker get a commission from this deal. Also ensure that the representation is for the specified property only otherwise you may be stuck dealing with the agent if the deal falls through. Your offer should be 2% to 2.5% lower than what you would normally have initially offered. Thus your MAXIMUM offer should be 2% to 2.5% below what you believe the true market value to be. Make the offer conditional on obtaining financing, passing home inspection and lawyer review.

9. Now this throws the ball into the agent’s court. If they can convince the seller to take the low offer, they keep the full double-ended commission. If they can't convince the seller to take the low offer, they may give the seller a rebate to bring your offer up to market value. Let the seller and seller agent work on rebates not you. Worst case, the agent is not rational and will not give back any of the commission to the seller and the seller won't accept anything below market value. You just need to walk away from the deal, another house will come up.

10. Obtain financing, perform a home inspection and get your lawyer to review all the paperwork. If all goes well, waive the conditions and continue with closing on your new home.
 
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Post Posted: 2009-1-31 22:35 Reply with quote
DIY是可以的。
 
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Post Posted: 2009-1-31 22:47 Reply with quote
The 2nd reason is the key.

No need to mention knowledge, agent will have more experience than you unless you are professional buyer.

But unfortunately, his/her interest is not aligned with you, some time even work against yours.
 
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Post Posted: 2009-1-31 23:13 Reply with quote
低于叫价的百分比能和佣金比例联系起来,这人是天才!

买房过程中很多技术性问题,买家自己会存在有很多误区。这种例子我可以坐下来给你举一大堆。

这个世界上没有人认为自己是傻子,但是天天会有人作出错误的决定。正因为是一生中最大的purchase,才需要更小心。
 
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Post Posted: 2009-1-31 23:21 Reply with quote
在加拿大办事有潜规则,不用买方JJ, 买方JJ不一定相信你,觉得你比较难以控制,他们更喜欢有JJ的买方,专业人士在一起,买卖容易谈成.

不过随着生意难做,潜规则会变的.
 
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Post Posted: 2009-2-01 00:04 Reply with quote
难控制? 这个有趣.

是没个帮手把你头老老实实按在案板上.
 
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Post Posted: 2009-2-01 00:07 Reply with quote
怎么把我写的翻译成英文了? big_happy.gif (有些数据不对)
 
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Post Posted: 2009-2-01 04:05 Reply with quote
买房经纪是一定要的,除非你对房子的了解比经纪更懂,或者目标明确,对要买的房子该以什么价格出手了如指掌.

举个例子:

我曾经的邻居,她的房子属于看起来不错,但是有很多不仔细考虑的第一次买房人会忽略的毛病的townhouse,她请了几个经纪给她估计,后来找了一个估计最高的老外,这个老外真的厉害,经过包装,这套房子看起来更引人注目.

但是开价比政府估计高出近30%(07年底),而且比这个小区最高的一套还贵10%.

几次openhouse,看得人还不少,但是几乎没有一个是经纪带来的,因为开价摆在那里,任何经纪大概都不会向客户推荐这套房子.

就在这个老外经纪已经后悔不迭时,终于有个自己跑来看房的中国人(据说他自己也看了不少房子,但是没看更满意的)下了唯一的offer,虽然比开价低,但是老外经纪很聪明,及时让出作为买方经纪部分的经纪费,促成了这笔交易.成交价比政府估计大概还高25%以上.

不知道这个人现在到底有多后悔 .



我觉得他就算自以为聪明,但是被房子表面的东西迷惑了,经纪的好处是他们看房子多,至少会分析一下基本面.
 
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Post Posted: 2009-2-01 04:44 Reply with quote
如果按这个思路走, 那么连卖房经济都不要,不是更省钱?
if cutting out all the agent fee is your primary concern, then looks for "for sale by owner" only. don't forget,even if there's no agent, the "owner"'s primary interest is to sell the house to you at the highest price possible. you are not g'teed the lowest price if you cut out all the agents: buyers & sellers.
be open, do talk about the fees w/ your agent; at the same time,
consider and respect the value of their services added to the process. don't focus entirely on how much they are making.
many experienced agent saves you more money (and time, your time is your money) than their commission.

at the end, it's really about who you get as your buyer's agent. individual experience may vary

同样炒股有人赚有人陪;
同样用buyer's agent, 有人开心有人郁闷。。。
 
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Post Posted: 2009-2-01 12:31 Reply with quote
这样的话题没什么好争论的,各人按着各人的想法去做就好了。
 
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