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Post Posted: 2009-9-22 12:46 Reply with quote
有一段时间了,我车的Check Engine亮了。我用OBD II检查了一下,得到Error Code: P0402(见图)。发动机运转,感觉没问题。怠速,好像也正常。偶尔,有5%机会Check Engine灯还会自己灭了。

我一直怀疑是EGR valve有问题,但不能肯定。哪位高手出出主意,如何进一步诊断问题?多谢!



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Post Posted: 2009-9-22 12:49 Reply with quote
你的汽车没手册吗?

我的车每一个警告都可以在手册中查到.
 
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Post Posted: 2009-9-22 12:53 Reply with quote
什么年份什么车?
 
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Post Posted: 2009-9-22 12:55 Reply with quote
www.obd-codes.com/p0402
 
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Post Posted: 2009-9-22 12:58 Reply with quote
拔开软管,我也用嘴吹了吹EGR valve,阀门好像没问题,开关很灵活。

1996 Lexus ES300
 
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Post Posted: 2009-9-22 13:25 Reply with quote
请看这个,

us.lexusownersclub.com...opic=33746

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Symptoms:
Hesitation at slow speeds (between 10 and 30 mph). This was the first symptom. From time to time I would experience severe hesitation on hard acceleration from a stop (for example when merging with traffic on the highway). The car would buck and spit and the Trac Control light would light up and go out.

Eventually the CEL and Trac Control light lit at the same time and stayed on.

At all other speeds and conditions the car ran satisfactorily.

Diagnostics:
I bought a code reader and read a DTC of P0402 (Excessive EGR)

Troubleshooting:
I read the FSM on EGR. It pointed to the EGR valve itself, the EGR position sensor, and the VSV as logical first places to start.

I did not believe the EGR was truly allowing excessive flow since the car idled fine. Excessive flow would create a rough idle or inability to hold an idle. The car has 140K miles on it and I figured it couldn’t hurt to pull the EGR to clean it regardless. I checked operation for smoothness and ability of the valve to seat tightly and did not spot any issues. I cleaned it with throttle body cleaner as best I could and reinstalled it.

Next I checked the ERG Position sensor according to the manual. It did not give the correct resistance readings at the sensor. The harness end was within the voltage range.

I did not believe the VSV was faulty since it would contribute to poor idle issue mentioned above if it was passing too much vacuum. If it was passing too little vacuum, I’d get a different code altogether. I followed the troubleshooting steps outlined in the FSM. All voltage, resistance, and vacuum flows were according to the ranges and specifications in the manual.

Fix:
I replaced the EGR Position Sensor and cleared the DTC memory.


Notes:
The car has been driven about 2 weeks and about 600 miles. No CEL light, no Trac Control light, and no hesitation. The code reader I have can monitor codes as they are written to memory even before they trigger the CEL light. This code requires a 2 trip detection to trigger the CEL. So far the memory indicates no trouble codes detected, not even a single detection.

I was unable to find an EGR Position Sensor on line or at any local parts houses. Most would tell me it they didn’t stock it or it was a dealer part. I wound up ordering it from Toyota for $49.00. Prices ranged from $42 to $64. Nobody stocked the part (including Lexus and Toyota). Turnaround was 2 days.

The part number has changed from 89455-33020 to 89455-33010. Don’t be alarmed if it does not look exactly like the original part. The newer one is smaller and has a different profile.
 
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Post Posted: 2009-9-22 13:58 Reply with quote
我记得,好像曾经打开过EGR Position Sensor,按照建议,清理过里面的filter。但是没有解决问题,也许必须整个换EGR Position Sensor了。
 
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Post Posted: 2009-9-22 15:54 Reply with quote
Yonex _BBCODE_WROTE:
我记得,好像曾经打开过EGR Position Sensor,按照建议,清理过里面的filter。但是没有解决问题,也许必须整个换EGR Position Sensor了。


the one you cleaned is not EGR position sensor, it is vacuum modulator.
 
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Post Posted: 2009-9-22 16:18 Reply with quote
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Yonex _BBCODE_WROTE:
我记得,好像曾经打开过EGR Position Sensor,按照建议,清理过里面的filter。但是没有解决问题,也许必须整个换EGR Position Sensor了。


the one you cleaned is not EGR position sensor, it is vacuum modulator.


I see. Thank you!

EGR Position Sensor is the top part of the EGR valve, isn't it? And it has to be replaced with the valve itself as a whole. Am I correct?
 
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Post Posted: 2009-9-24 10:03 Reply with quote
继续请教Sun版。。。

回家再查。好像这款车似乎没有EGR Position Sensor。在EGR Valve上面没有任何电器类的玩意。也就是说,只有机械类的零部件。

从你引用的那个贴来看,他的车是1997款,他的EGR Valve上面确有EGR Position Sensor。

现附上照片,帮我判别一下,谢谢!


EGR Valve Part
1996LexusEGRvalve.jpg

EGR Valve in Place
EGR02.jpg

EGR hose to VSV
EGR03.jpg

EGR VSV
EGR04.jpg

 
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