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The hidden trap of mortgage penalties at the big banks

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Posted by waterland 2013-12-11 15:52:59
Thinking of buying a house? You may want to ditch your bank for an alternative lender. Rob Carrick explains –

www.theglobeandmail.co...e15774375/

It’s easy to get caught in the posted mortgage rate trap at the big banks.
No, you won’t have to pay the posted rate on your next mortgage. Pretty much nobody does that any more, according to mortgage broker Robert McLister. The real danger is that posted rates will be used to calculate the penalty if you ever have to break your mortgage, probably costing you thousands of extra dollars.

A mortgage penalty compensates a lender for the interest payments it loses out on when you break a mortgage contract. "That’s the intention," said Mr. McLister, who is also editor of CanadianMortgageTrends.com. "But in many cases, it overcompensates. It’s punitive in many cases."

As we head into another round of quarterly bank earnings reports, it’s worth thinking for a moment about how those wonderful profits and dividends for investors are generated. One way is by using posted instead of lower discounted rates when calculating how much to penalize a client breaking a mortgage.

With houses as expensive as they are today, it’s crucial to get the lowest mortgage rate you can. Keep the same level of focus when inquiring about mortgage penalties. Although it’s hard to imagine the need to break a mortgage on a house you’re just buying or living in happily, it can happen. Mr. McLister said roughly 70 per cent of people adjust their five-year fixed rate mortgage before maturity, although many do it to refinance or move to a bigger house rather than to break the mortgage outright.

Mortgage penalties are straightforward if you have a variable-rate mortgage – expect to pay the equivalent of three months’ interest in most cases. With a fixed-rate mortgage, the penalty is set at the higher of three months’ interest or a calculation called the interest rate differential, or IRD. The must-ask question when negotiating a fixed-rate mortgage: Do you use discounted or posted rates to calculate these penalties?

This is important because using posted rates can result in a much higher penalty. For some real world numbers, let’s use the mortgage prepayment calculators all lenders now provide on their websites. They show penalties for paying all or a portion of your remaining mortgage balance (to find them, Google your lender’s name and "mortgage prepayment calculator").
Let’s use an example of someone who, three years ago, set up a $250,000 five-year mortgage and has a balance owning of $200,000. Assuming an original mortgage rate of 3.64 per cent with a discount of 1.5 percentage points, the mortgage prepayment calculators at several big banks showed penalties ranging from $5,000 to $7,600 or so.

A check with some alternative lenders found penalties ranging from $1,800 to $2,800. These are very rough comparisons because lenders differ a fair bit in what information they ask you to supply. But you get the picture – the big banks apply penalties with a sledgehammer.

As well as producing revenue for lenders, inflated mortgage penalties also help trap clients who might otherwise move their business to another lender. Imagine you want to refinance your mortgage or buy a bigger home and your bank won’t come across with a competitive rate. You say you’ll change banks, only to find out how prohibitively expensive it is to break your mortgage.

Mr. McLister said some banks have a stated policy of offering clients only a small discount off the posted rate if they want to add on to their mortgage to buy a more expensive house. You may be able to negotiate something better than a trivial discount, but your bank knows your leverage is limited because of the penalty you face if you go.

Alternative lenders often have better rates than the big banks, and they typically have cheaper penalty fees. Why do so many people use their banks for mortgages, then?

Mr. McLister speculated that some borrowers like the convenience of having their mortgage where they bank, and of being able to go into a branch to talk about their mortgage. If you prefer transacting online, some alternative lenders don’t have great websites.

One thing you do not need to worry about if you borrow from an alternative financial institution is that your lender will go bankrupt. "It’s funny that people look at mortgages and think, I need a safe lender." Mr. McLister said. "If a lender goes out of business, pretty much nothing is going to change except for the name of your new lender."
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One thing you do not need to worry about if you borrow from an alternative financial institution is that your lender will go bankrupt. "It’s funny that people look at mortgages and think, I need a safe lender." Mr. McLister said. "If a lender goes out of business, pretty much nothing is going to change except for the name of your new lender."

1. 我就看过小的贷款公司不行了,
到RENEW 的时候直接要求客户PAY IN FULL!
道理很简单, 我没钱了, 你RENEW 我都
不要您这个客户。 当然, 客户经济能力好
的没问题可以到别的公司去贷款。 怕就怕
RENEW 的时候没工作, 没存款。 大银行
没有这个风险。 RENEW - NO QUESTION ASKED.
LENDER 倒了, 我可以说 给客户带来的
除了是麻烦。 别想不还款。 每一分钱
计算机都给记账。 不能简单的说就是名字的改变。
没有影响, 只能希望是个SMOOTH TAKE OVER.
将影响降到最低。

2. mortgage broker 大部分生意也是BOOK
给TD, SCOTIA, CIBC, 这些不是大银行是什么?
(RBC BMO 没有BROKER CHANNEL )

3. 对于实在没能力的客户,才给小公司
做什么10% 的利息。 反正华人也不做。

4. 目前的情况, 那个大银行的利息不是做到最低?

事实是, 极大部分的客户, 优质的客户,
银行搞定,当然包括= 银行自己做的 + BROKER 拉来的生意。

You may want to ditch your bank for an alternative lender.
意思是说: 假如你要是去TD 贷款的话, 就来找ROB, 反正都是
在TD 贷款, 为什么不让ROB 在TD 哪里再赚一笔。

2013-12-11 22:40:55 | 引用
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Alternative lenders often have better rates than the big banks, and they typically have cheaper penalty fees. Why do so many people use their banks for mortgages, then?

好客户一定给大银行, 拿好利息;
就是找BROKER 做也是BOOK 给大银行。
只是到BROKER 哪里中转了一下。

不好的客户才送给ALT. LENDER拿巨高的利息;
就没有好客户到ALT. LENDER 的。
ALT. LENDER 不是慈善机构。
他们做的生意是等您贷款在银行搞不定了
收您更高的利息。 大部分华人99.9%不接受。
不买房也不拿这个利息。

可以说银行A 可能在某个TERM 利息比
B 银行做的低一些。 这个是可能的。
但是说什么除了银行以外还有什么地方可以
更便宜贷款的都是在发梦。 如果有
直接说名字,不要搞得很神秘。

银行 和 ALT. LENDER 不是一个级别的。
客户群完全不一样。

2013-12-11 22:55:10 | 引用
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